My School Sucks

[Kowood]

Yep. All the machines are Mac 9.2, OS X (for which they disabled the UNIX terminal....But only on MY account....), and Windows. At least I can use Dvorak on the OS X and the Windows....Fsck the 9.2.....How do I convince the dumbass sysadmins to use Linux? And what distros should I give them? Maybe they'd let me do the admin if I set it up...Or I could edit the sudoers file ^_^

[Harry Kuhman]

I rather suspect that if the school found the need to "disable the Unix terminal" but only do it for your account, that you have done something that has made them wise to you and they are not likely to let you administer a system.

[Kowood]

All I did was cd around the server and try sudo, which obviously didn't work. And I compiled naim...But none of the kids who use iChat get in trouble. I believe they're afraid of those "damn Linux hackers" ^_^

[chris-harry]

apart from sending them tons of annoying messages... um... tell them you need more variety, and promise them you dont hack in linux, and you wont do anything bad??? i dont know...

distro... debian...

and give them some knoppix cd's to "Trial"

[chris-harry]

MY SCHOOL SUCKS TOO!! BUT I ONLY HAVE 6 MORE EXAMS!!! AND THEN NO MORE SCHOOL FOREVER... MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

[jjmac]

>>
.How do I convince the dumbass sysadmins to use Linux?
>>

Through example. They will evalute firstly -=- based on the person presenting -=-

Just shoving the idea at them will likely do more harm than good.


>>
All I did was cd around the server and try sudo, which obviously didn't work.
>>

(grin) and so they thought you were probing for weaknesses/mischiefs ... no wonder (grin)

Me ... i would have banned you from the whole system. But i'm surprised that they would allow a user account to have access like that. In that, i'm suprised they didn't have it locked down by a "group" designation -=- one that students would not be members of.

You could try running from a LiveCD, and then just let them see the functionality. I doubt if you would need to approach directly as i would think they do have an eye on you anyway (grin).


jm

[danielsan]

I have to agree. I would have done the same thing if I was the sys admin at your school. If anything, I commend the sys admins for catching this security incident and taking action. In addition, I wouldn't necessarily consider them dumbasses if they're keeping you out of their network.

Also, it is probably not up to the sys admins as to what platform they use. Those types of decisions usually go way above their heads. Anyways, the point is moot since they're not going to listen to the guy that tried to hack their network. Not being rude, just stating the facts.

[pau1knopp]

if they had to make a decision to not give (only) you a terminal session, and then let you do the admin setup and edit the sudoers file, i agree with you.

they would be dumba$$es

seriously though, what they would want is a killer app they can't live without. you have to find out what that is. you will learn something from these dumbasses if you go through that exercise. And don't forget to throw in (a little) eye candy to finish them off. Superkaramba is your friend.

also, have you considered booting the windows machines to knoppix?

would aforementioned dumbasses consider loading vmware player on the windows machines? you can then create vmware disks and load the O/S of the day and have full machine control on a virtual machine. present it as a "learning opportunity".

if they won't, qemu and dsl will let you run your own "poor man's vmware" from a thumbdrive (in user space).

all rites of passage suck, especially school.

good lounge thread

[Kowood]

Hmm. Turns out the shell value was messed up for the first alphabetical half of the students. I asked the sysadmin if he knew what bash was....And he doesn't care. He thinks it's when you hit someone with something. ^_^

[chris-harry]

or hit them threw a computer... or with a computer... i always get them confusied..