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Thread: to install udev, must remove mount-aes -- is this safe?

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    to install udev, must remove mount-aes -- is this safe?

    I want to use the "udev" package on the Knoppix3.8 hdd install. However, udev depends on initscripts which depends on the "mount" package. But, when I try to install "mount", I get this scary interaction:

    # apt-get install mount
    ...
    The following packages will be REMOVED:
    mount-aes
    ...
    You are about to do something potentially harmful
    To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'
    ?]

    Is this operation safe?

    Why does the hdd install use this "mount-aes" package rather than just "mount" package?

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    mount-aes appears to be a modified mount so that it can mount encrypted paritions and/or encryoted loopback devices. Google for more info. In my opinion, it should be fine to remove mount-aes and replace it with normal mount.

    I hope this helps.
    James

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    Someone wants to know how I installed udev (which I did 3 months ago and mostly have forgotten). My memory is hazy and I did this (if I recall correctly) on a Knoppix3.8 harddrive install. I'm no expert but I kept lots of notes when asking on #debian (the IRC channel for Debian). I was worried about trashing my machine.

    Anyway, for a puny Debian/Knoppix user like myself, these are big-and-scary APT operations. No money refund if this totally trashes your machine. Warning: Debian packages may have changed in the meantime and parts of these "instructions" may have to be changed.

    Here is the relevant part of the "apt-get" man page:
    --force-things | --no-force-things | --refuse-things
    Force or refuse (no-force and refuse mean the same thing)
    to do some things. things is a comma separated list of
    things specified below. --force-help displays a message
    describing them. Things marked with (*) are forced by
    default.
    Warning: These options are mostly intended to be used by
    experts only. Using them without fully understanding
    their effects may break your whole system.

    Then I did all these (you just have to enter the stuff on the # lines).
    Use at your own risk:

    # dpkg --force-overwrite -i initscripts_2.86.ds1
    dpkg - warning, overriding problem because --force enabled:
    trying to overwrite `/etc/init.d/checkroot.sh',
    which is also in package sysvinit
    --also overwrite:
    /etc/init.d/halt
    /etc/init.d/mountnfs.sh
    /etc/init.d/reboot
    /etc/init.d/single
    /etc/init.d/skeleton
    /etc/init.d/mountall.sh
    /etc/init.d/rmnologin
    /etc/init.d/urandom
    /etc/init.d/umountnfs.sh
    /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
    /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh
    /etc/init.d/hostname.sh
    /etc/init.d/sendsigs
    /etc/init.d/umountfs
    /usr/share/man/man5/rcS.5.gz
    /sbin/fsck.nfs
    Setting up initscripts (2.86.ds1-1) ...
    ...
    The default action is to keep your current version.
    +++ bootmisc.sh (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?
    +++ umountnfs.sh (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?
    +++ tmpfs (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?
    # apt-get -f install
    Reading Package Lists... Done
    Building Dependency Tree... Done
    0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 429 not upgraded.
    1 not fully installed or removed.
    Need to get 0B of archives.
    After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
    Setting up udev (0.056-3) ...
    Populating the new /dev filesystem temporarily mounted on /tmp/udev.z2YfEV/...
    # apt-get -f install <--- just a sanity test
    Reading Package Lists... Done
    Building Dependency Tree... Done
    0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 429 not upgraded.

    ------the following is for your amusement only------

    Here I was going down the wrong road:
    # apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
    The following packages have unmet dependencies:
    udev: Depends: initscripts (>= 2.85-16) but it is not going to be installed
    E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages
    (or specify a solution).
    # apt-get -f install
    dpkg: error processing
    /var/cache/apt/archives/initscripts_2.86.ds1-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
    trying to overwrite `/etc/init.d/checkroot.sh',
    which is also in package sysvinit
    # apt-get install sysvinit
    sysvinit is already the newest version.

    All these were wrong and useless:
    # apt-get -f install sysvinit initscripts
    # apt-get remove --purge initscripts
    # apt-get remove --purge sysvinit
    # apt-get remove --purge initscripts
    # apt-get -f install sysvinit initscripts
    # dpkg -i initscripts_2.86.ds1-1_i386.deb
    # apt-get -f install sysvinit
    # apt-get install --reinstall sysvinit
    Reading Package Lists... Done
    Building Dependency Tree... Done
    Reinstallation of sysvinit is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
    # apt-get -f install --force-yes
    ---close but wrong "--force" subargument then get #debian help---

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