update hd install with next version of knoppix?

[krishna.murphy]

*and there is no knoppix-data.img on my hdd

Okay, you don't have one there (yet).

*perhaps the install script is different from knoppix tohd

Most definitely it IS different.

*and i noticed knoppix 6.2 have no option to make persistent swap file and persistent home directory on the hdd

It comes up automatically when tohd/fromhd is used; hope someone else can jump in on this one.

*and i noticed that knoppix 5.3.1 has much more programs , why 6.2 has less number of programs ?

I think Klaus was focused on making it "lighter" for CD/Flash drive use, and trimmed some stuff - but things I missed (like K3B) were replaced (Brasero does the same stuff, only more.)

thanks best regards

[Capricorny]

*and there is no knoppix-data.img on my hdd

Okay, you don't have one there (yet).

*perhaps the install script is different from knoppix tohd

Most definitely it IS different.

*and i noticed knoppix 6.2 have no option to make persistent swap file and persistent home directory on the hdd

It comes up automatically when tohd/fromhd is used; hope someone else can jump in on this one.

*and i noticed that knoppix 5.3.1 has much more programs , why 6.2 has less number of programs ?

I think Klaus was focused on making it "lighter" for CD/Flash drive use, and trimmed some stuff - but things I missed (like K3B) were replaced (Brasero does the same stuff, only more.)

thanks best regards

I think the setup with ordinary HD install of Knoppix may be different. (For me, that's another reason to stay away from it) When personal data/programs are not in a image file, it's probably harder to do simple upgrades etc. But it should be possible - I just can't see any good reason to work that way.

[ialtaparmakov]

(For me, that's another reason to stay away from it) When personal data/programs are not in a image file, it's probably harder to do simple upgrades etc. But it should be possible - I just can't see any good reason to work that way.

so by this you tel me : "For me, that's another reason to stay away from linux at all"

it seems that linux is so user unfriendly.... and community says that i have to stay away from hd install ...

[Capricorny]

(For me, that's another reason to stay away from it) When personal data/programs are not in a image file, it's probably harder to do simple upgrades etc. But it should be possible - I just can't see any good reason to work that way.

so by this you tel me : "For me, that's another reason to stay away from linux at all"

it seems that linux is so user unfriendly.... and community says that i have to stay away from hd install ...

If you are not willing to use software the way it is intended to be used, but insist on stretching and bending the rules without the necessary insight to do it right, then lots of software will seem unfriendly, I think.
Either you learn the simple, stupid way to install Knoppix to HD, which most of us use, OR you use another diistro suited for your way of working OR you learn how to customize Knoppix your way properly. By the time you have learned halfway enough to get the third approach working, I guess you have started to agree with us.

[ialtaparmakov]

If you are not willing to use software the way it is intended to be used, but insist on stretching and bending the rules without the necessary insight to do it right, then lots of software will seem unfriendly, I think.
Either you learn the simple, stupid way to install Knoppix to HD, which most of us use, OR you use another diistro suited for your way of working OR you learn how to customize Knoppix your way properly. By the time you have learned halfway enough to get the third approach working, I guess you have started to agree with us.

ok
thats why i asked the community
but
as with linx i got unexpected result - i got error message that i am to stupid tu use linux

thanks

you are very nice

[Capricorny]

If you are not willing to use software the way it is intended to be used, but insist on stretching and bending the rules without the necessary insight to do it right, then lots of software will seem unfriendly, I think.
Either you learn the simple, stupid way to install Knoppix to HD, which most of us use, OR you use another diistro suited for your way of working OR you learn how to customize Knoppix your way properly. By the time you have learned halfway enough to get the third approach working, I guess you have started to agree with us.

ok
thats why i asked the community
but
as with linx i got unexpected result - i got error message that i am to stupid tu use linux

thanks

you are very nice

At least you seem to be too stupid to understand what people try to say: We are NOT saying you are too stupid to use Linux, we urge you to use Knoppix the simple, stupid ways we others do it. We TRY to explain that what you try to do takes more skill and patience than most of us care to have.
If you think that's not nice to try to do, it's quite OK with me. But please don't project any unfriendlyness into this. It's for the benefit of all, not the least yourself.

[ialtaparmakov]

At least you seem to be too stupid to understand what people try to say: We are NOT saying you are too stupid to use Linux, we urge you to use Knoppix the simple, stupid ways we others do it. We TRY to explain that what you try to do takes more skill and patience than most of us care to have.
If you think that's not nice to try to do, it's quite OK with me. But please don't project any unfriendlyness into this. It's for the benefit of all, not the least yourself.

thanks

you are very nice

[Capricorny]

At least you seem to be too stupid to understand what people try to say: We are NOT saying you are too stupid to use Linux, we urge you to use Knoppix the simple, stupid ways we others do it. We TRY to explain that what you try to do takes more skill and patience than most of us care to have.
If you think that's not nice to try to do, it's quite OK with me. But please don't project any unfriendlyness into this. It's for the benefit of all, not the least yourself.

thanks

you are very nice

If I were employed by Microsoft to make Linux look bad and make people stay away from it, I would probably have done exactly what you are doing now: Taking one of the best and most generally useful pieces of Linux software ever produced, use it in a way it was not intended to work, with focus on an inherently problematic piece of software (OpenOffice), complaining about not being able to make it work your way, and then blame/fllame the people trying to help you out of the mess you have got yourself into.

I don't say that you are a troll, but I point out that you behave exactly like a professional troll might have done.

[Clinton]

Either you learn the simple, stupid way to install Knoppix to HD, which most of us use...

A stupid way is different from a stupid person and as Capricorny included themselves in that group of people who use the "stupid way" I'm satisfied no insult was intended.

ialtaparmakov, we are all victims here - victims of a variety of software that doesn't always do exactly what we want it to do so we come to forums to discuss it. Let's stick to talking about the software.

[ialtaparmakov]

i am sorry if i wrote something rough

i was angry because i was helpless.


thanks

best regards