@harry: In general, I'd tend to agree. Even with a brand new release, getting Knoppix installed on a hard drive and tweaked to my liking is a lot more time consuming than I remember it taking with Debian and the infrequent public releases only make the task that more difficult as times goes on. The only reason I'm using a knoppix disc as my install media instead of the latest beta of Debian testing is that no variant of vanilla Debian, at least to my knowledge, offers the kind of out-of-the-box blind accessibility offered by Knoppix in Adriane mode and I don't access to anyone who can reliable help in setting up Debian for blind use. If Adriane ever gets ported upstream and an Adriane version of Debian CD1 is made available, I'd ditch Knoppix and never look back. But yeah, I'd totally recommend giving Vanilla Debian a try for Hard drive installs unless you know for a fact you need something that is knoppix specific.